Good luck and hang with it. Hodgdon®, IMR® and Winchester® powders neither assume nor authorize any person to assume for it any liability in connection with the use of any product or data. 700X is a fast burning powder, but, it must be well contained by the proper depth crimp, (about the thickness of a dime)to allow the powder to completely ignite. The TGO state flag logo and the TGO tri-hole "icon" logo are trademarks of Tennessee Gun Owners. Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by GilaMonster, Apr 26, 2015. Seating depth makes a massive difference in 9mm with pressure. That's something I suppose I will just have to learn to account for. That means it's not any worse than other loads/powders. is 1.1"? I usually go with the most accurate lowest charge that reliably cycles the weapon. Come join the discussion about targets, clays, hunting, gunsmithing, gear reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! I loaded 3.6, 3.7, 3.8, 3.9 and 4.0 gn. Thank you for sharing Hodgdon Reloading data. As long as none of the casings exceed .750" inches I should be good, right? I think that I bought the last 4lb jugs they had. That load might be OK as it is listed for the Winchester AA hull, but it is WAY over the top (pressure wise) in a Remington hull (17.5 @ 11,200 PSI). I don't have experience with 700x, but I've had an experience with Ramshot Zip and Lee's (I think) watered down data that I wanted to share. Also...just a thought...sometimes primer seating depth (ie not seated deeply enough) can cause primer strike ignition problems... CZ;   All works well but when the hulls are ejected they are really dirty - not just the crimp ends but most of the way down the hull. I had a nice range day and tried them in my guns... FTE nearly every time. That's what makes it fun. All rounds are within .005" of 1.14". This is just something I like to do because you get to see how much those small incremental jumps in powder charge effect the spent primer. The only reason I don't use it a lot is because I've had some metering issues. © Copyright 2020 Hodgdon Powder Co. All Rights Reserved. Not much case volume so the second you start seating shorter account for that and knock off a tenth of a grain or so. I guess I load 700X on the light side with 15.6 gr (414 bushing in a 366) with 1 oz of lead and CB110012 wads using Cheditte primers and I`m satisfied with the performance and sometimes use this at the 25yd line . Seat them so that the C.O.L. My first reloads were a few months ago with 115 fmj and 700x. Started 1 hour ago. Did you try running the one struck rounds back through to see if they would ignite? I was concerned that perhaps the bullet length differences between Hap and xtp would change pressures and require different loadings. I found there were a couple reasons for this happening. Not to step on your thread - but I use 700X (17.5 g) with W209 Primers, WAA12 wads and AA hulls throwing an ounce and an eight of number 8. 5.5 gr. Thank you Jimbob86. Until Zip, I never had an issue with cycling, etc. Find what you need in six easy steps. Select your gauge from the drop-down list. Also, you might want to go a little longer than the OAL listed for the SPR GDHP, 1.150 is a bit more reasonable for a solid nose. to around 4.0 Grs. Lead Free Bullet Data. By I can't tell you why, but they are fairly clean. I became interested in it because I do believe it is good to practice with what you actually carry, and I like to carry the good stuff, (fmj hp +P), so it is really not affordable to do that at factory prices, (about a buck a pop). Tennessee Gun Owners (TNGunOwners.com) is the premier Community and Discussion Forum for gun owners, firearm enthusiasts, sportsmen and Second Amendment proponents in the state of Tennessee and surrounding region. Something worth nothing may be that all of the higher powered rounds fired, it was mainly a few of the lower powered ones that did not fire. As far as the maximum length goes. You can prove this out by loading a few hulls with about 20lbs wad pressure and a nice deep crimp, and a few with no wad pressure, and a very shallow crimp. and 8 lb. That load data came from a Spear manual. FMJ; .251" DIA. The base is for your charge. Your way under the 1250 recommended max. It's the base of the bullet you're concerned with when Boyle's Law applies.   It would allow the gasses to blow back past the plastic and get them dirty. I, also, experienced the dirty hulls you are describing. Hodgdon®, IMR® and Winchester® powders neither assume nor authorize any person to assume for it any liability in connection with the use of any product or data. I would like a digital copy (as well as a physical copy). No problems. TNGunOwners.com So David sold me some 115 Gr. 27 mec bushing , 15.5 gr. Of all of the that fired, all of them functioned in the Glock 19 flawlessly. IMR Handgun Data. Hodgdon® Powder, IMR® Powder and Winchester® Powder expressly disclaim any and all warranties with respect to any and all products sold or distributed by them, the safety or suitability thereof, or the results obtained including, without limitation, any implied warranty of merchantability or fitness for a particular purpose and/or any other warranty. By clicking the 'I Agree' button, I understand/accept and will agree to abide by the precautions and warnings outlined below. This email link is to reach site administrators for assistance, if you cannot access TFL via other means. If you're unsure, or just want options, check as many boxes as you'd like. :rock: I cranked out 150 more of those for our next outing, thinking all was well. I did put an extra power spring on my striker in order to get reliable ignition on those particular primers...but have since removed that spring as we are using "regular" Tula primers now. However, the Hodgdon site does provide data for .44 special and 700x, with between 4.3gr and 4.9gr for a 240gr bullet. Alson need suggeston on a Wad. As long as none of the casings exceed .750" inches I should be good, right? I suppose I will start 3.3 Grs. chamber. Obviously start with the lowest charge, shoot you first group checking the primer for high pressure sign after each shot. Hodgdon and IMR powders, including H4198, Varget, H4350, and IMR 4451, are some of the most successful propellants used by competitive shooters. JavaScript is disabled. I expected near 100% reliability from CCI 500 primers. I was dreading adjusting the lock rings to change bullet types but that is a non-issue altogether! Try those. By clicking the 'I Agree' button, I understand/accept and will agree to abide by the precautions and warnings outlined above. The same was true of over bored barrels, or barrels that had the forcing cones removed and the gunsmith got a little careless with the chamber clearances. I shoot a gaspipe, so it would probably be obvious to me if they were. Started Yesterday at 03:59 PM, By rnfp and it is leading up in my pistols . Oh yes, I indeed forgot something. If you have a firearm related question, please register and post it on the forums. Thanks. If you load it down, you might have more unburned powder to deal with. GlockSpock, Books on Amazon (Want one that can be purchased on Kindle). Weighed each charge and tared the scales to each casing before charging. The number one reason, however, was that there was insufficient wad pressure put on the wad, and the crimp was not set deep enough to allow total combustion of the powder. 70Stingray Started Yesterday at 01:56 PM, By List of everything I should watch for and do? All cycled the slide, but I could feel the difference above 3.8. Speer Gold Dot HP Any brand-Large Pistol Details IMR - 700X … You will notice the difference right away..... Just my experience.. Dan Thome (Trap). So I wanted to clarify something I was asking earlier in this thread. You must agree to the terms below before continuing. Butchjones It just concerns me starting out higher than the LRN data that IMR provides me with. Really I want a really good manual. What I would like to do is set my bullet seating die at a "universal" or standard length and then lock the lock rings in really tight so I don't have to fool with it any longer. 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